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More Job Searches Lead to Grad School

    • Does anyone else see the fatal flaw in this logic? The market is flooded with highly educated job seekers so the solution is to contiue to flood it with even more highly educated jon seekers? Soon you won’t be able to teach nursery school withou a PHD, it’s madness. What ever happened to things like on the job training and personal aptitude counting for something?

    • Sounds like doubling down on stupid to me. How about some data and analysis on how successful these grad students are in finding jobs? What areas are they earning degrees in?

    • I can imagine an effective system of skill and task based testing would provide a cheaper and more efficient system for employers to gauge and pick candidates. Unfortunately, fears of disparate impact will prevent such wide scale implementation of test based systems. As such, we will continue with our widely inefficient way of picking candidates by correlating educational attainment with capacity. A system that has been shown to be not only expensive, but also shown poor correlation (candidate selection is quite the crap shoot).

    • These kids are getting scammed while the education industry laughs all the way to the bank (who they are in cahoots with).

    • What do you call a monkey with a PhD in skill that nobody has any desire to employ? Dr. Unemployed Monkey with a ton of student loan debt.

    • I don’t understand the flaws with going back to school to try to better the chances of getting employment and making contacts. Networking events don’t always equal jobs. Neither does a degree entitle anyone to a job. But the Master’s degree gives options and beats out the BA, now the high school diploma to hiring managers.

      With good research and a definite answer of what I would want to do, I am sure I could become gainfully employed in my field. However, this will delay my entry into the real world, which I still can’t have by making $9/hour with my college degree in business.

      Signed,
      20somethingrepresentative

    • Hola Amigos:

      Lots of “Hope” but no “change”. Vote for Mr. Obama.

    • Why not take out those debts towards a small business? The same US Gov. is backing up those loans too. Except the borrower is the beneficiary rather than the University. Plus there is a better chance of actual earnings potential.

    • “the flaws with going back to school to try to better the chances of getting employment and making contacts” is that there is no evidence that school below the top ranks can do that. Just look the news, and compare the job search results of CCNA and your major in master. There is no pre-requisite for CCNA certification. You can go to sites like 9tut.com to get the current test questions. Get the CCNA book from CISCO and work the tests. For less than $500 and 6 months’ self study, you get a chace for those CCNA postings. And go to payscale and compare CCNA pay with Master in your field. Base your decision on facts!

    • How do you know I was not going to get a Master’s in Occupational Therapy? CCNA isn’t as good as a career in health care. I see that it may only cost $500 and 6 months of self study, but it isn’t as effective as one would think. It may be on par with the MBA, but it sure doesn’t have the earning power of what a career in health care does.

      As for the guy that doesn’t like Obama – Romney isn’t the best solution either. He’s going to outspend to win the election but he’s just another politician who won’t do anything unless he pulls a Scott Walker on the budget.

    • You (RWM2012) are on the right track. As long as you balance cost, reward, and risk your future is bright!
      CCNA or CISSP is easy and better than $9 an hour, but not idea. Technical career is a perpetual race because only your last 5 year experience has value.
      If there are more like you our future is bright.

    • I am a current MBA at a school ranked around the 30 spot on most rankings (Not a “Top School”) and my job opportunities have increased tremendously. Before, all I had were offers for sales positions and now I am receiving offers from consulting firms, banks and corporations looking for management professionals. I may not make as high a return on my investment as a CCNA will because my investment is $100K and there is no near term guaranteed job that pays $100K+, but I’d rather take my chances with a real degree and pursue a career in proven field than try to chase the tech game. Tech jobs are here today and gone tomorrow.

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    • I have a masters degree in engineering from a well-know state university with good grades and it’s still difficult to find work. Something is fundamentally wrong. Degrees don’t seem to have value anymore. Part of the problem is that Washington makes it easy for businesses to hire foreign labor on visas with names like H-1B, L-1, L-2, EB-2, EB-3, OPT, CPT, etc. For example, here is a website explaining how to go from F1 visa to OPT to H-1B visa to green card:

      http://www.h1base.com/visa/work/OPT%20to%20H1B%20Visa/ref/1264/

      Folks, they are blatant about it. Companies were recent caught posting jobs at Dice that effectively said “Americans need not apply”.

      The other half of the problem is that companies can simply export jobs to China and India, especially easy to do with programming jobs.

    • Pol pot will save them by forgiving their loans and ordering them to work in the countryside – purifying agarian society

    • I’m a Computer Science professor at a good university, and I agree with the posters who say that returning to grad school merely in the hope of solving an unemployment problem is a poor bet. If you’re already employed, and are seeking higher challenge, then then grad school is worth investigating. If you can’t get work with a BA/BS, then the problem may be how well you actually learned, or what you majored in.

      A college education doesn’t guarantee employment, or employability, especially in my field. What matters is whether you learned skills that are in demand. I can say with confidence that I know *NO* good software developers, who are also reasonable team players, currently lacking for work. Any recent CS grad lacking a job needs to look seriously at their programming skills, or perhaps their ability to work well with a team. If the former is the problem, they’d do better spending their unemployed time contributing to a respected open-source project to refine and demonstrate their programming ability. Most interviewers will be more impressed with 20,000 lines of quality code contributed to an open source effort than with a master’s degree.

    • @Clinton Staley

      “…the problem may be…what you majored in…”

      Word.

    • I’ve actually felt compelled to leave my MBA and MS off my resume at times.

    • Students need to approach undergraduate work with the mindset that the best college for them will be the one offering the best financial aid and least amount of debt upon graduation. Don’t drool over a “dream” (aka: Reach) school where you’re going to be in the bottom quartile and get as little money as humanly possible… instead, shoot for the best fit academically and financially so that you can afford graduate school, if that is your choice. No need for all of this debt to keep growing if the college search is done properly!

      Here’s a free 7 day view of my way of teaching students in high school how to go to college as frugally as possible: http://www.collegesearchgameplanmembers.com/?ap_id=toddw

    • I really encourage people to engineer their own layoffs instead. You can make a lot of money if you do it write. I wrote a book entitled, “How To Engineer Your Layoff: Make A Small Fortune By Saying Goodbye”.

      It’s about empowering employees to make their own rules.

      Grad school is just a band-aid if you don’t know what you want to do. An EXPENSIVE one at that!

      Sam
      financialsamurai.com

    • Financial Samurai – if you’re a writer I would suggest you learn the difference between “write” vs. “right” and the correct usage for both.

    • I read the piece in awe. I didne2€™t realize fiotcin writers were not using quote marks in their workse2€”e2€”okay, I don’t read everything. Our magazine stresses the importance of correct punctuation. Like Shriver, I need the quote marks (and other punctuations) to help me cruise through stories without having to stop and think. Omitting these important manuscript landmarks would only get me to toss the book into recylinge2€”I wouldn’t want a potential author to pick up on this bad habit. Lete2€™s hope writers done2€™t take this unusual writing format to heart.

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