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Kia sales pass Jeep on icon’s own turf

Jeep may be the signature vehicle of Toledo,but among Lucas County residents,it’s losing ground to autos made by a South Korean manufacturer.

Kia,which built its reputation on low prices,has surpassed the Toledo-born Jeep brand in the number of new vehicles registered in the county,according to records obtained…
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Kia sales pass Jeep on icon’s own turf – Toledo, OH
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Posted 22 August 2007 – 12:23 AM
toledobla…D=7329104232807
Kia sales pass Jeep on icon’s own turf
Jeep may be the signature vehicle of Toledo, but among Lucas County residents, it’s losing ground to autos made by a South Korean manufacturer.
Kia, which built its reputation on low prices, has surpassed the Toledo-born Jeep brand in the number of new vehicles registered in the county, according to records obtained from the Lucas County Auto Title Bureau.
Kia registrations jumped 20 percent to 2,203 for the year ending July 31, the first time the Asian company has outpaced the iconic Jeep brand in its home county.
The number of new Jeeps registered increased less than a percentage point to 1,764 during the same period.
Lucas County, OH Car Sales 8/1/06 – 7/31/07
1. Ford 3,810 <— Nearly 2 to 1 vs. Chevrolet!
2. Honda 3,004
3. Dodge 2,933
4. Chrysler 2,239
5. Kia 2,203
6. Chevrolet 2,158
7. Jeep 1,764
8. Toyota 1,167
The surprising thing is that Ford doesn’t even have a large presence in the Lucas County area. GM has the Hydramatic in Toledo, and Chrysler obviously has the Jeep plant. How many employees does/did Maumee Stamping have?
Technically, a lot of Jeep employees buy/lease a Chrysler product, so the Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler numbers should have been accumulative for comparison purposes. Chrysler still actually outsold the competition overall in this particular geographic area.
But…. the strength of Ford vs. GM (especially), and also Toyota is nice to see.
And, the Kia numbers also are an interesting side note, esp. in a traditional union town like Toledo. I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of Hyundai-Mobis employees (Chrysler’s on-site contractual provider of rolling chassis for the Wrangler) aren’t taking Hyundai-Kia up on employee purchase discount plans.
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Posted 22 August 2007 – 01:06 AM
Ovaltine, on Aug 22 2007, 01:23 AM, said:The surprising thing is that Ford doesn’t even have a large presence in the Lucas County area.
Bigger than you think. The Monroe ACH plant has many workers that live in Lucas County, as well as the Milan Plant. I live close enough, that if I tripped out my back door, I could fall into Ohio.
But, these numbers may be deceiving. When a Michigan resident buys a vehicle in Lucas County, it is titled in Ohio first, then the buyer must transfer it to a Michigan title. Monroe county, at least to the south, has no Hyundai/Kia dealer. Just over the boarder is the Taylor/Kia dealership which sells a lot of cars to Michigan residents. It is very large, and advertises in Monroe on T.V., direct mailings, and newspapers.
I’m not saying a lot of Lucas County residents aren’t buying them (I see a lot of them with Ohio plates), I would just like to know if the numbers are differentiated.
Also, there are not that many employees at the Hyundai/Mobis plant to explain those numbers.
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Well, I guess since it’s the first time it’s bound to be noticed, but is that really surprising?
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Grand Cherokee
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I’m more surprised that the "volume" models of Kia didn’t overrun Jeep earlier, to be honest. Despite DCX $ Chrysler’s best (worst? I mean, Compass, seriously?) efforts, Jeep simply cannot be an "all things to all people" brand. And in a town that’s struggling as much as Toledo is low-priced vehicles are going to have a strong value proposition that Jeep nor anything Chrysler can match. Except the base model Caliber and all of it’s cheap, plastic awfulness…seriously, give me the Spectra!
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